Comments on: [Updated] New, Simpler Evernote GTD System, Part 3: Removing the Waste (Muri, Muda, Mura)

By: Weszt

Weszt — Wed, 14 Sep 2011 16:47:59 +0000

Thank you! I’m looking through your blog, too, for more about Muda!

By: Muda 7 Wastes

Muda 7 Wastes — Wed, 14 Sep 2011 14:36:00 +0000

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By: Weszt

Weszt — Mon, 29 Aug 2011 21:49:29 +0000

I stumbled onto not writing out obvious next actions a month or so ago when I heard about how dedicated and thorough some people were at creating next actions. They would plan every project down to the atomic level every week during their weekly review without fail.

The thought was simply exhausting.

If one maps out all next actions for all projects, then moves them all to their context lists, I’d expect to have lists I’d never want to work on! Besides if priorities changed, all those lists would suddenly be out of date and all that effort wasted.

So I’m keeping things more fluid and simple, which is part of the appeal of Lean to me.

Thanks for the Lean on Myself link. I’ll be looking reading through that site more thoroughly over the next week.

Also thanks for the other information and I look forward to your post on combining Muda principles on knowledge work!

By: Robert Kok

Robert Kok — Mon, 29 Aug 2011 15:57:15 +0000

I couldn’t figure out how the weekly review worked. Why would you only once a week look at your project list and decide on next actions? For me the answer was in a podcast where David Allen mentioned that most next actions were too obvious, so why bother trying to process them before hand.

I decided that my processes needed a bit more processing. In my field of work many actions depend on the completion of other actions. I didn’t want to bother my psychic RAM thinking about the Next Action once the previous was finished. That’s why I only use a task manager in which I can manually order the actions for every project during my Weekly Review.

I think you’re doing great on applying Lean. I attended a one day course applying Lean, Six Sigma and Theory of Constraints with an expert trainer from the field. I’m also using Lean Thinking in my graduation paper.

The biggest challenge applying Lean is to translate the principles from a manufacturing environment like Toyota to knowledge work or service management. While locating resources on Lean Thinking I stumbled upon a podcast “Applying Lean Techniques for Personal Productivity” at http://bit.ly/pllAmr This lead me to the website http://leanonmyself.net/

“LeanOnMyself, a concept developed by Niklas Modig at the Stockholm School of Economics, is a holistic approach to personal efficiency and work-life balance.”

As you can see they almost use the same horizons you have posted.

My advice would be to listen to the podcast and visit the site to learn more about Lean on Myself.

If you want to know more about lean service management read John Suddon’s excellent article at http://www.superfactory.com/articles/featured/2007/pdf/0706-seddon-tool-heads.pdf

Your post has inspired me to write a blog post combining Muda principles on knowledge work. This requires a lot of effort, so it will take some time before I can complete this.

By: Robert Kok

Robert Kok — Sun, 28 Aug 2011 10:52:59 +0000

Great to hear you liked my additions. I have some resources on this subject and will post them on a later date.

By: Weszt

Weszt — Thu, 25 Aug 2011 18:12:53 +0000

Wow! Great additions, Robert. I love your feedback; I always walk away with a fresh perspective.

I love “it is bad to plan for the future. It is wasteful to create anything before it is needed”. I see this as overplanning, over-organizing. I’ve read forum comments from people who go into excruciating detail with their next actions week after week during their weekly reviews. I’m of the mind that you need enough to keep moving, but if the next steps are obvious, why bother documenting it all? I’d rather knock things out and put them behind me.

“Unnecessary keyboard or mouse clicks” – oh definitely. You’ve got me thinking about my contacts now, too… I bet I have some in one place, some in the other, no central repository.

I guess I touched a bit on inventory with my comments above, but I’ll rephrase it this way: how much do we really need to get moving? Isn’t movement forward better than sitting still in preparation?

Have any further thoughts on Lean Thinking in regards to projects, tasks, areas, and horizons? Admittedly I feel like an outsider looking in with Lean, Muda, and related methods. I’m inspired by my reading, but book knowledge and experience are never the same.

By: Robert Kok

Robert Kok — Wed, 24 Aug 2011 20:42:21 +0000

Great angle on GTD and removing waste.

I work from the principle that you first must master your processes, then you can improve them and later redesign them. I find your posts very useful in helping me to think how I should design my own GTD processes.

Important in Lean Thinking is value creation. Lean inspects a process by analyzing each task or activity to determine whether it is value-added, is not value-added but necessary, or is not value-added. Tasks are value-added when the customer is willing to pay for them. In the GTD context I would define value added as something that does contribute to my focus areas. I would define value-added but necessary as (routine) tasks that belong to my areas of responsibility.

I have the following additions to your Muda analysis:

Overproduction
It is bad to plan for the future. It is wasteful to create anything before it is needed. This should be aligned to your horizons and projects lists.

Motion:
Unnecessary keyboard or mouse clicks. Is everything easy to find inside my tools? How many time do I waste trying to find what I need?
Have I deduplicated all my information? Practical example: contacts in LinkedIn, Facebook, Google Contacts, etc.

Inventory:
Do I have the bare minimum (of information) to proceed. Do I waste my time finding more information than actually needed?